How to Self-Coach for Financial Success w/ Jackie Randall Lentz

I am excited for today's guest. I'm welcoming Jackie Randall Lint to the podcast. She is a special person to me and I'm so glad I have met her. Jackie, welcome and tell us who you are and what you do. Hey dalene. Thank you so much for this opportunity. I am so excited for this conversation. My face hurts 'cause I'm smiling so much, but yeah. My name is Jackie Randall Lz. I'm located in New York with my husband and our two fur babies. Our kitties love them so much. I am a former mental health counselor. And I made the pivot into Christian life coaching way back in 2020, and I've been doing that ever since. And I specifically help coaches and business owners create extraordinary content to attract true aligned dream clients. But then we don't stop there because then I also help coaches elevate their coaching skills and their client experience. So they are able to. To deliver extraordinary results for those clients that they attract and they bring into their programs. I love what I do. I love my clients. I love you and yeah, for this opportunity. Yes, yes. I had been coaching for several years and had a little bit of training in a different course, so it wasn't live, and I found Jackie's kingdom Boss Academy. Very last minute. I pulled the blog and I went into it. It's about four months, and I learned so much about how to actually help clients get the results they need instead of just teaching, which is okay, I, I have to teach financially, but to actually help them understand what they're processing behind their head. I'm so grateful to have found her, and so today she's going to help you listeners. Learn how to self-coach to get yourself out of overwhelm with budgeting and retirement planning. Just finances in general. Jackie, where does somebody start? Yeah, that's a really great question and I love that you use the term self-coach. For those who may. Be unfamiliar with that term, like self-coaching. It's really just becoming aware of your thoughts, your feelings, your beliefs, the stories that you may be telling yourself and not attaching shame either to what you're feeling and to what you're thinking. And I think a lot of us do that, right? Like we attach that shame and that judgment and that guilt piece, but. When it comes down to, with self coaching, it's really just cultivating that awareness around the stories that you're telling yourself and not attaching that shame and judgment to it, which I know that's a big piece of what you do with your clients, especially with money and finances. Right. We have stories attached to that. Oh boy. Like I know, I had stories that I had to work through because from. You're a toddler, right? And then growing up as a child and then a teenager, and then early adult years, you're watching your parents, you're watching all these people around you tell you things about money or talk about finances certain ways in, in a certain way, right? And so even those stories that you pick up when you're, you're growing up, they carry with you. Into your adult years too. And I, I know that's a big thing of what you, you do with your clients is you help them work through those stories so then they can have the retirement that they want. Yes. Yes. I mean, the things that we see as a 2-year-old, and even if you reflect back to you raising your kids, how much you, more you let your 2-year-old see as opposed to your eight or 9-year-old. And so they're getting mixed messages in lots of different ways. Also because of their maturity. I have many clients, yes, we work through stories and uncovering some different things that have happened to them and beliefs, but I have a lot of clients who find themselves in overwhelm and they keep getting stuck. You know, we keep guiding them. So what are some ways to, you know, if somebody's listening, they're like, I'm just overwhelmed. It's just too much. They don't want to even. You know, like tackle anything. What are some suggestions you have for them? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, it, that's a good question. 'cause even before we hit record, I know we were talking about a story about, you know, how sometimes your clients, they worry about. Months ahead. Like, what's to come? They, they worry so much about the future. And the word, as you were telling me that story, I, I wrote down self-trust and I feel like a lot of the worry, a lot of the overwhelm, a lot of the fear that comes from. That comes from a lack of self-trust almost, like the, the overwhelm, the fear it comes from, well, will I be able to afford Christmas in December when it's June, or would I be able to retire even though you have five years to like get yourself to that place, I think a lot of the overwhelm and fear comes from that self trust of, or that lack of self-trust of, will I be able to do? X, Y, and Z or have X, Y, and Z. And so I think for those listening, first and foremost is you gotta believe in yourself. You gotta trust in yourself and your ability to get there. And that's why they also hire you to help 'em, and to give them those tools and the strategies to get there. But I think belief in themselves is such a core component too, because they can also hire you. You kick hit them the tools and the strategies and everything, but if they don't believe in themselves and their ability to have the retirement that they want, then they might continue to fall into that overwhelm, the, the, that fear cycle, and so when it comes to tackling that fear and overwhelm of, of your future and your finances, I will first say like, trust. Trust yourself, and. No matter how old you are, like you've got to where you are right now and you're okay. You're surviving, I'm assuming. Like you have a roof over your head and you have food in the fridge, and you have shoes on your feet and Yes. Money and finances, it can always look better, I think no matter what your situation is, it's always like, I think it could be better, it can al, it can always be better, but I think believing in yourself that like you got to where you are and you're still okay. Everything is figureoutable, you can, you'll always figure it out and you gotta believe in yourself and have that self trust that what you want is possible for you and available for you. Yeah, so true. I mean, and I think that's a recognition is how far have you come, what have you done? And then instead of jumping to the end line, like just look at the next piece. And trust in yourself. You made it work so far. Gotta keep going. Gotta keep going. So as somebody is working through that what is another? You know, what is another thing that can help them get to their end goal? I know we talk about, you know, vision and having that, you know, I, I have my clients begin thinking about that and getting detailed, but I love how you were saying, you know, we have our talents and our abilities, and how does that play, and how can we use those as we're navigating this, you know, this journey that can be difficult at times. Yeah. I think it's really, okay. So I serve, I serve Christians. I help other women really walk into their God-given gifts, their God-given identity. And so knowing that God has deposited certain gifts and talents and skills and strengths inside of you, and so. Even thinking about your retirement for the future, thinking about getting creative and thinking outside of the box of what can you do? When you retire to utilize those skills, those strengths, those talents. Right. We were talking about this yesterday about your vision and how you retired and still you were like, I, I'm not done yet. Yeah, yeah. I wanna put these skills and strengths and, and talents to the test. And so you started a whole business and I think you are the beautiful example. Of what's possible and available for them, even when they get to the, the point of retirement. I don't know if you've, if you wanna talk a little bit more about like that transition for you, because I know you have experience in that. I'm not fully retired yet, so hopefully you're, you're dreaming of something. I think that's, the key, we've got a dream so far. And keep it going. And then. Yeah, recognizing that, I think the belief with retirement is that it's the end and it is the end of something, it's the end. For me it was a 32 year career, but it's not the end of life. And I think recognizing that difference. Is so very important. And like you said, reaching in for those abilities, those desires, those skills. What can you do to prosper in that second phase? You know, because even if you aren't able to retire before 65, most people at 65 are still young, vibrant, healthy, ready to go, you know, do everything in the world. So purposefully go do something. Yeah. Yes. I have that purpose. Yeah. And you're a lot like me in that way where it's like the idea of, you know, going to the beach, going by the pool, having a mimosa in your hand, spending your retirement with those days, that sounds nice for maybe a day or two. Yeah. But then after that. I get bored easily. And so it's like I need to be doing something. And so even just opening up, opening up your world a little bit, like thinking outside of the box, expanding your mind and dreaming. Yes. Giving yourself permission to dream, oh, can we go there for a second? 'cause I feel like not enough people give themselves permission to dream. They, society teaches us. Go to work for, I don't know, 65 years. 60, 50 in 65 years. That's a long time. How long do people go to work for? What's the average? Daily, 35. 40 years. Okay. Yeah, definitely not 65. That's sometimes it feels that way though. Yes. The, the moment you come out of the womb, you're working. Yes, yes. Yeah. So you're the, but what society teaches us is like you work for 30 years, okay? And then you're retired and that's it. You move into a retirement home and maybe you take a couple trips here and there, and I think really giving yourself permission. To break that standard, to allow yourself to dream of what is possible. Like yes, you can travel the world, but like you can also do so much more than that, like you can start your own podcast, you can write a book, you can. Start your own Bible study, like, it's, endless possibilities. And so I always joke with Eric, like I wanna be that couple where we sell our home and we get a trailer and then we just travel all across the United States. Eric is against that, so I told him he can just stay home with our cats. But it's like giving yourself permission to dream about those things. Yeah. Yeah. Dream. And that's what I say, like dream. Remember, you know, you as a child or your grandkids or even your kids, and they were gonna be these most amazing things in life, they shot for the stars, and we never stifled that, we never set, my daughter was gonna be a professional soccer. Player. And I'm like, you go for it. You know? Why stifle the dreams. And so I think that's the same with retirement. You know, we have to dream to start getting so creative to create desire. So I know on my journey, I had chosen my path, knew what I was doing, the desire was so deep that I could care less what was happening elsewhere, and I made the choices that affected that. So. Maybe you can enlighten, like why is desire needed to really put that motivation into place? And not that it was a hundred percent right. I'm not saying this is the solve all be all but is so good, but why is desire so important for us to have? Yeah. Yeah. And that's a common question that I hear a lot from my, my clients as well. And again, and I serve specifically Christians. And I know there's probably people listening where maybe they're not necessarily Christian and that's okay. But I will say one of the things I really help my clients know and understand is like, God is not just in the business of quote unquote using you. Like we hear that all the time of like, God called me to this. He wants to use me for this. To expand the kingdom, to touch others. Reach others to, to serve right, to change lives. Yes. God wants you to change lives like He. He called us. He created us to be disciples. But also, he's not just in the business of using us like he cares. He cares about your heart. He cares about your soul. He wants you to have fun. And the Bible talks about that too, of like being a child. Being a child of God. And when we think of a child of God. Just a child in general. A child likes to have fun. A child plays a child is imaginative, they're creative. They like to, they like to laugh. And that's a big value of Gods as well, is like he wants us to have fun. He wants to be pa, he wants us to be passionate about something. He wants us to have a desire. It's. It's in alignment with him to have a desire, so not just, again, going through life, working your job, walking your calling, okay, that's nice, making that money. That's nice. But we also have to keep in mind too, like again, money, I believe money, that's, that's a tool, that's a resource given by God, from God. And so it's not just something that is meant to just. Pay the bills and try to control 24 7. I do believe that God wants us to be expansive with it and, and have that abundance mindset and play with it, So good. Yeah. Creating that different world, that different perspective and really thinking outside of the box, which. That is why I love Jackie as my coach, helping me build my business she's so supportive of to who I am and who I can be in business. So let's kind of shift a little bit and I would love to talk about the benefits of hiring a coach, whether it is for health. Business, money, whatever it is. Right. Just life coaching. What is the benefits of having a coach, maybe as opposed to a teacher? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Well, a coach. Calls you out on your bs. Can I say that? Am I allowed to say that? Yes. You can say that. A coach allows it calls you out on your bs. Here's the thing, okay. This is my counseling background, my psychology education coming into play right now. Our brains psychology tells us that our brains are designed to keep us safe, which means when something feels scary or uncomfortable. It might stretch us and grow us in a good way, in a healthy way. Our brain is still designed to keep us safe, and it doesn't want us to go do the thing and take action. And so a coach. A coach really helps us take action and get results and move into move past the fear, move past what is feeling uncomfortable. And so again, like you said, let's just take the health coaching for, for example, right, losing weight. It's not rocket science. You can get that information for free. You can go to the library, read all the books you can. It's not rocket science. Eat less workout. That's how you lose weight, yeah, yeah. So someone's not gonna hire a health coach to just give them that strategy to just tell them that they're gonna hire a health coach. Because if it's as simple as eating less and working out, then why haven't you lost the weight that you wanted? Why is every single year, on January 1st for the last 10 years, your resolution is to lose the weight? Maybe you stick to it for a month or two, but then you fall off, and then you go, or you lose the weight and then you put it back on. It's because of our mind, it's because of our brain. And so hiring the coach really allows you to build those healthy habits and be committed to the action plan that you have in place. And you work through those thoughts and beliefs and stories that you have in your mind that is keeping you stagnant and stuck. I hope I explain that. Yes. Yes. So good. So good. It is, yes. Anything, any subject, I can build my business on my own. I, you know, people can do their finances on their own. I did. However, what are you doing at those stumbling blocks, that is where somebody can help you work through. What maybe isn't out there and said, you know, okay, you're going to come against overwhelm. This is what you need to do. You know, that's just not in that par for the course. So I want to say first how grateful I am to have found Jackie, and I know she cringes every time I say this, but she reminds me of my mother. Okay. She doesn't look like my mother. Not any of that, but her. The way that she is accepting of and recognizing, I, I hear you. I feel you. I know what you're experiencing right now. And then this is always the, but it is time to move past that. And my mom was so good about that, the loving, the caring, but then the push. And so that's what I love about Jackie. So share with us, Jackie, how spec you know your specifics. I know KBA is getting an overhaul. Just a little bit and I would love for you to share with listeners just in case there's coaches out there who are struggling with content or struggling with getting their client's results. I will stand Yes, both of those standing behind that she delivers results, but share with us your program. Thank you. Yeah. So Kingdom MOS Academy. Yeah, it is getting a little bit of a. Facelift a pivot, I guess you can say, where it's still going to be a coaching certification program, but it's really I'm shortening it and narrowing it where it's really only going to be focused on coaching skills and learning coaching tools and techniques. So that would be perfect if maybe you've been thinking about coaching, considering coaching, or if you are a coach and you just want to be able to deliver. Bigger, faster results for your clients. So KBA is the coaching certification but the Uncaged coach is a program where we really focus on attract, serve, and retaining your next. Soulmate client. And so we do focus more on the marketing, the content, and then also the client experience piece inside of the uncaged coach. So there's coaching in inside of there, you get a portal of self-led trainings and it really is just such a beautiful community of, of what's created so far. And then I also do one-on-one coaching. A lot of my clients hire me because of my background in clinical mental health counseling. And so if you're in a place where you know, you're, you're looking to feel more confident in what God has called you to do and you're looking for more personalized, hands-on support and feedback, then I also do one-on one coaching. Yes, I love it. Love everything she does. So grateful to a founder. So how do people connect with you? Yeah, so I'm on Facebook. Feel free to send me a friend request. Jackie Randall Lens. That is my main platform, so don't be a stranger. Send me a friend request, send me a dm, say hi. Hello. I'm hanging out there. I also have my own podcast on Spotify, the Pray Play, and Get Paid podcast. And there's more information too on where you can find me on either of those, my Facebook or my podcast. So yes, those links will be down in the show notes. If you are a business coach or maybe you have just a small business and you need support, reach out to Jackie. She is one in a million. I will just tout her. I love her to pieces. She amazes me every time we connect when I'm like, I'm not sure if I have a problem. You know, and not that she creates problems, but she helps you pick through what's maybe next and not. You know, glaring. So is there any last words of advice for our listeners before we enter this interview? Hmm, yeah. Just, just trust yourself, I think that big, that whole theme of self-trust, that's what's coming up for me today. And so for those listening, like just trust yourself, whether it's hiring dalene, making that move. Following her on Instagram, whatever, like, whatever that next step is. Like, just, just trust yourself to, to make it and to take it. Yeah. So good. It is hard to take that next step and. You gotta have somebody that can lovingly, you know, give you that push. So hopefully there's somebody that will do that for you and you know, the next step. But yeah, reach out if you need help, business or financial to either one of us and we will be able to support you. So thank you for being here, Jackie. It was so much fun. Thank you dalene.